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Bored??? Married???? I can't believe that there are soooooo many of us!!!!
May 06 2011
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RHP User
15 years ago
My views constantly evolve on this subject matter and I think every relationship is different, so I will keep my comments brief (most unlike me ) . I believe monogamy should be a choice you make in a relationship, not a societal expectation. . I've done the monogamous marriage for many years, I've experienced an open marriage too. I think that it is always preferable for your partner to be fully aware of and (ideally) understanding of your views. I'm not a big fan of infidelity but recognise that society's views on monogamy and infidelity are changing. I think whilst I understand your feelings and have indeed experienced a version of them in days past, I was never at a point where I accepted (or perhaps justified) them. However, you should answer to yourself and your own personal value system and inner voice. I also believe it is important to appreciate and respect that one person's "unrealistic expectations" are another person's "joyful reality".
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'HotSexyChilli' I have no regrets being single, it's a welcomed relief and a continuation of my quest of self discovery. No one can advise another as to their best course of action, but the strength that comes from finding others echoing your questions gives solace in the resonance of numbers. Chilli xx I can relate to this too! There are different stages of the journey I guess and as Chilli and I sit on that side of the fence that opens up a brave new frontier post-marriage, I'll admit to having really considered your post OP, and wondered at which stage you were at. . Plugging the hole that is left when "something is missing" can be very debilitating and soul-destroying. It takes a lot of energy to do that and I know in my situation, it resulted in me completely losing myself along the way. . You have many people here, of both sexes, who relate to your situation. Like me, you are very lucky to have good friends IRL that you can discuss your situation with too, they are worth their weight in gold and an absence of them would, I imagine, make the journey a very lonely one. Four years is a long time to feel unfulfilled, especially if you've had a snapshot of fulfillment from someone else .... I agree with Chilli also when she says that it is the responsibility of both people in a relationship to make sure their partner's needs are being met. When you realise you are investing way more than the return that investment is yielding, it can become a very untenable situation to be in. . I too, wish you all the best.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'HotSexyChilli' Quoting 'flirty_bi_fem' So Much For Me Keeping It Brief ... You happy now Flirty...? Yes ... I feel ... very satisfied as a matter of fact!
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platinumblonde69
15 years ago
I have to agree Maitlandgirl...Its a very hard topic to explain...and...unless u wear the shoes...you cant understand...Others can judge as much as they u like...but only u know the real answers...Thanks for bringing up such a debatable topic... Plat
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hey Maitland girl I was in a similiar situation to about 1 year ago...it is so confusing, not knowing what to do. I was unhappy for so long, i didn't know what happiness felt like. I finally left and are much happy for it! Good luck xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
Maitlandgirl, you were not waffling but speaking from the heart, and very eloquently at that. You expressed very concisely and clearly what other marrieds on the site feel, I am sure. You have certainly expressed aspects of my journey, and that of a small number of others I have met here. Take courage. Enjoy your exploration and play, and stay warm to your man who supplies a facet in your life that the playing cannot supply. And no one person can supply all our needs in all areas - that is socially accepted of marrieds in all areas except the sexual, a strange exception when you feel a need in that area!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I know just how you feel,and agree some people really dont know how it feels unless they have been there... Everyone wants love,affection,attention ,to feel wanted and get that buzz, but sometimes its just not with the person your with,we are all human and need it.So no matter how wrong it maybe ,you need to do what makes you feel good ,is that so bad? I battle wth the guilt all the time ,and yes i have tried to spice it up , talk about it,and take the lead,but im told not to keep on!!!....I can relate to anyone in the same boat
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RHP User
15 years ago
I totally agree with MaitlandGirl I have been "happily married" for eight years. A friend put me onto this site because she knew as much as I loved my husband I wasn't in love with him. I don't have a need or desire to end my marriage, but our relationship is definately missing something. I know he loves me but there is no passion, I have only been on the site for a short while, looking for a NSA playmate hasn't been easy firstly there are the out and out liars but when you cut through that crap you may even find someone who makes you feel alive, and makes me feel good about myself, someone who can rekindle your passion. Up until now I have remained faithful to my husband but I have needs, wants and desires that he just cant fullfil and I'm hoping I can find one who can satisfy me in a way he cant. It's true people can talk about this topic all day but still condem thosse who are brave enough to say it. They shouldn't judge unless they have been in this situation.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hi Maitland, I'm in exactly the same boat. Its like living with a best friend but without benefits. Its been great reading POV on this & other theads. Most of my close friends are religious & make feel guilty for even thinking about leaving. When I explain what is really going on they quickly fall silent. Bottom line is I have made myself miserable trying too keep everyone else happy. I'm at the stay or go crossroads now. All I can say is be true to yourself. If u can't square away the infidelity piece, either get permission for an open relationship or leave & stay really good friends. That's the conclusion I've come to in the last few days. Only time will tell if I've got it right. I'll probably get some professional advice before I make my final choice. Good lucky, CG.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Hey Maitland, . I understand where you are coming from....I've been there. . My primarily advice is to not cheat on your husband. Cheating opens a separate can of worms and only widens the gap you feel between yourself and your partner. The problem once you start looking at greener pastures is that the one you are in suddenly seems a lot browner ! The impact of looking affects your ability to work through existing issues within your relationship. . And if you do meet another wonderful man while still married you are then left with having to leave and deal with all the separation crap while dealing with a new relationship which more often than not doesn't last. . I believe it's better to get rid of existing baggage before collecting more ! . Hugs, Saturn
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RHP User
15 years ago
Easier said than done Mss saturn ,if your not in the same position !
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RHP User
15 years ago
hi its great to know people on here having the same problems been together for 4 years and having the same situation. Can you still love some one and seek out a purely sexual play mate if your sexual side is going nuts?does it solve the problem? Is this our primatives selfs screaming out locked into religious way of life? i've never cheated but the thought wont leave my brain
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RHP User
15 years ago
Maitlandgirl !! Your my hero !! I just wish that some people out there wouldn't be so judgemental !! Everyone is different and have different situations. Ozzymano
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RHP User
15 years ago
thats easier said than done,,when your in that position...
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RHP User
15 years ago
things come up that delay it, kids, sickness, winning lotto, some just suck it up and keep plodding along.some don't get it at all because they have a very hectic interesting life and no time for their brain to wander.but if your doing the daily grind, then its going to creep up on you till you have to scratch it.
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RHP User
15 years ago
This isn't a problem only experienced by ladies in marriages but the men too. We have been married for 27 years and have gone through all the highs and lows togehter. Sex was awesome and we even tried Swinging for her to explore her bi side to find sh wasn't intersted. But the sex has basically stopped and we have tried to spice it up by trying different things, however when you are the instigator of sex all the time and getting knock back or excuses you decide not to try. So I have started to look for play partners but that has proved hard becuase of people perceptions of an older married man looking.
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RHP User
15 years ago
Thank you everyone who has commented on my post, both here on the forum and to me privately. It is interesting to me to see how you all interpret my post and my reasons for feeling the way I do. Some of you assume that I am unhappy in marriage and that I should get out. The thing is, that i am not unhappy, and that I dont want out. I thought that once. I was very confused about my feelings for different men and thought that the man that made me feel so good when I was with him was the one I should be with. The reality of that was, it wasnt reality!!!! I enjoyed our private time together, the intimacy and the ability to talk about things other than children, bills etc. But i realised that that was all we had, if I had of left my husband for him then our special time together would no longer be special. It would be filled with talk of morgage repayments and fighting over who was going to cook dinner that night!!!! I love my husband and my family and the things that my husband gives me. But I also have needs at this stage of my life that he cant meet, and i dont necessarily mean just sexual needs. It also doesnt mean that my husband and I dont have a fantastic sex life because we still do!!! It goes much deeper than that. The responses on here show that some of you get it and some of you dont!!!
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RHP User
15 years ago
I left but I probably should have stayed. I still love the woman, but both the social side and our sex life were dull with a capital D. I was faithful to the end, but if I hadn't of been I might still be happily married. I am no longer looking for love just great sex now. I have some wonderful people, but do miss being in love.
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hardnslow
15 years ago
Well said Maitland girl I know exactly where you are coming from and I am the same just the other way around
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RHP User
15 years ago
I am of the same feeling i love my wife more than life itself but i found i was on here wanting to talk to others i have never been with another person which sounds weird but i just find it good to talk to people on here i dont know what that makes me?? but now its biting me in the ass as she wants to split i love her and their isn't much i can do but watch her leave . Confused as hell
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RHP User
15 years ago
Quoting 'maitlandgirl' Thank you everyone who has commented on my post, both here on the forum and to me privately. It is interesting to me to see how you all interpret my post and my reasons for feeling the way I do. Some of you assume that I am unhappy in marriage and that I should get out. The thing is, that i am not unhappy, and that I dont want out. I thought that once. I was very confused about my feelings for different men and thought that the man that made me feel so good when I was with him was the one I should be with. The reality of that was, it wasnt reality!!!! I enjoyed our private time together, the intimacy and the ability to talk about things other than children, bills etc. But i realised that that was all we had, if I had of left my husband for him then our special time together would no longer be special. It would be filled with talk of morgage repayments and fighting over who was going to cook dinner that night!!!! I love my husband and my family and the things that my husband gives me. But I also have needs at this stage of my life that he cant meet, and i dont necessarily mean just sexual needs. It also doesnt mean that my husband and I dont have a fantastic sex life because we still do!!! It goes much deeper than that. The responses on here show that some of you get it and some of you dont!!! maitlandgirl, Thanks for posting. Its nice to hear this perspective from a lady, as I am often confronted and abused by people who dont get it. Good Luck S
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RHP User
15 years ago
A very rational analysis of your situation MaitlandG.... are you sure you weren't a man in a previous life? :pHugsStalky
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RHP User
15 years ago
except that I like what miss Saturn said , however I fully 'get' what you're saying , it's often the case that one person can't satisfy us by themselves , and I have a hunch that if we all lived for a thousand years then everyone would experience that at some stage. I think in that respect we're all equal , you may be fully satisfying your husband now (although I know that's not the issue here) , for example , but I just think it's an interesting question for some that ; what if I'm also lacking? -just not right now. Some people develop an air of superiority because they are satisfying their partner but they are not getting satisfied by them in return. That question is not directed at you btw. Loz
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RHP User
15 years ago
hi im a male 53 and i agree with you even though i have never had any one other then my wife up until now (seperated) as you have said i dont think or rearly that 1 man and or woman hva eit all
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RHP User
15 years ago
i am in the same situation at the moment where as my life was same day in day out and i started to talk to other women and couples on line to fill a void, i should of been able to stand up and say i am not happy with us so lets try to work on it but instead i went on my merry way and now my wife has left and i can see why but i did try to repair the damage we had made but without any luck. I would love to wake up and start the day without the terrible feeling i have each day but they all say it does get better and the same with the physco bills boy
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RHP User
15 years ago
and big thatnks to all the brave people who admitted to feeling the same. i have always said it is unrealistic to except one person to fullfill all your requirements in life and make you happy, however this seems to be what society expects with monogamy, marriage and relationships in general. my marriage failed because of this reason, and i now stay happily single with a couple certian select "friends" who fulfill different needs in my life. i believe there is also somethign called polyamory, when you are in relationships/love with different people but i'm not sure how widespread this is in australia. or maybe it is and no-one talks about it! xx
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RHP User
15 years ago
I completely agree with the previous posters (and relate to some degree). People change over time and it is a tough decision to stay (or to go) which can have all sorts of implications for your life. I wish I could offer some sage advice but I'm a bit disillusioned myself. Thanks for starting the thread.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Ladies, not trying to rock the boat her, but i hope you show guys the same sympathy you show eachother.
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'maitlandgirl' It goes much deeper than that. The responses on here show that some of you get it and some of you dont!!! No one will totally get it because know one can totally experience what you are experiencing. We can empathise to some degree but its not complete. On that note I offer some support and some advice -albeit limited advice. You are right to not consider leaving your husband and to appreciate your family life together. Well done, you show good maturity. Its also so very difficult to be everything to one person so your instincts are good there. On the other hand, you sound to me like you have a lot of goodness in your marriage that it goes both ways. My limited advice would be to focus on those good things and use your natural nurturing side to help him see the good that he does offer but also see that he can extend himself a bit more...and do so succesfully with you. Just as your situation is complex for others to understand, any solution is complex or, rather, not simple to explain so I won't try. Suffice to say that I think the solution is within your marriage and in your family and not from other well meaning men. all the best PS happy to try to expand on my thoughts further but I think you'll be ok
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hey Platinum, Dunno bout you but reckon WE could begin research into a cure for bored and marrieds? What you think??? I'm pretty game - r u? :p Xo
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RHP User
14 years ago
Hi there,I know exactly how you feel and I loved reading your post, I previously posted a similar thread from a guys perspective and got chopped down to size very quickly, the whole "cheating" issue is massive and you'd be amazed at the people who will spout abuse in your direction for suggesting you'd like to quench sexual needs while remaining with your long term partner.It does seem girls can express their desires to seek extra marital sex without the public chastening that guys receive, either that or you have slipped under the radar!.You would be blown away at the amount of swinging couples who will not only dress you down in the forums for suggesting you'd like to or do "cheat, but will also PM you and let you have it with both barrels for not sitting at home with your legs crossed.It's hard to explain to some people, even under an alias, that you love someone yet also wish to indulge your primal desires and this may not be with your partner. I hope you find what you are looking for and that you remain discreet and continue to enjoy your long term relationship If you are going to pursue things then you should make sure that you keep things to yourself and not become involved with anyone who can embarrass your partner, keep your liaisons away from home, don't get into serial texting, just arrange to meet and play safe.xxxx
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RHP User
14 years ago
Naughtygirl4310 brought up the subject of polyamorous relationships, where you openly have more than one emotionally invested relationship (although there is usually a main partner, ie spouse). I can understand the sceptics assuming it just wouldn't work... but it certainly can. My only actual experience with polyamory was a brief fling with a married man just before he moved interstate (otherwise it probably would have expanded into a full relationship). Having his wife cook the three of us dinner was definitely one of the more peculiar nights I've ever had! But despite my awkwardness, they were very easy with each other and with me, and it helped me to relax and understand the situation better. Another friend is engaged to his partner of 14 years and his boyfriend of many years also shares their house... it works for them, and has done for a long time. . Everybody is different. Personally, I could never cheat, I'm far too honest for my own good. Likewise, I could never choose to be "the other woman" for similar reasons. But my positive introduction to polyamory by these amazing people means I'm not the narrow-minded bigot that used to view monogamy as a black and white issue. *shrug* do what you need to do as long as it isn't at the expense of others would be my advice.
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RHP User
14 years ago
im sorry but where have all the people gone who believe in marriage and wha it stands for Im so over people saying my partner doesnt understand me im not getting what i need at home blah blah blah Cheating is cheating i dont care how you dress it up how you justify it Ok we are a breed who really cant have one partner in life as far as sex goes but bloody hell the lies the cheating and the 2 face people who come up with all the excuses under the sun to justify why they cheat and peopel on here go i understand you i know what you are going through bullshit Im sorry but if u want to cheat on your partner do 2 things leave or talk to your partner about how u r feeling But in todays mainstream throw way excusse people have its much easier to cheat on someone and come in to this chat site and get support from all the other cheaters cheating is cheaingt no matter how u dress it up get real people and stop the bullshit
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RHP User
14 years ago
im sorry but where have all the people gone who believe in marriage and wha it stands for Im so over people saying my partner doesnt understand me im not getting what i need at home blah blah blah Cheating is cheating i dont care how you dress it up how you justify it Ok we are a breed who really cant have one partner in life as far as sex goes but bloody hell the lies the cheating and the 2 face people who come up with all the excuses under the sun to justify why they cheat and peopel on here go i understand you i know what you are going through bullshit Im sorry but if u want to cheat on your partner do 2 things leave or talk to your partner about how u r feeling But in todays mainstream throw way excusse people have its much easier to cheat on someone and come in to this chat site and get support from all the other cheaters cheating is cheaingt no matter how u dress it up get real people and stop the bullshit
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RHP User
14 years ago
im sorry but where have all the people gone who believe in marriage and wha it stands for Im so over people saying my partner doesnt understand me im not getting what i need at home blah blah blah Cheating is cheating i dont care how you dress it up how you justify it Ok we are a breed who really cant have one partner in life as far as sex goes but bloody hell the lies the cheating and the 2 face people who come up with all the excuses under the sun to justify why they cheat and peopel on here go i understand you i know what you are going through bullshit Im sorry but if u want to cheat on your partner do 2 things leave or talk to your partner about how u r feeling But in todays mainstream throw way excusse people have its much easier to cheat on someone and come in to this chat site and get support from all the other cheaters cheating is cheaingt no matter how u dress it up get real people and stop the bullshit
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RHP User
14 years ago
MaitlandG, Does your long term partner know what you are up to?, not that I am judging :-) but just out of interest I wondered what sexual desires he can't fulfill that you want to enjoy with someone else?.I have have been fucking a married woman you see and she's able to let herself go with me in ways she can't with her husband, I say fucking because that's what we do, it's raw and dirty, hard and sweaty not sensual and romantic, I arrive to fuck, there's not the romantic connection like an affair, she's dressed in clothes she wouldn't wear for her husband, she couldn't let herself go with her husband like she can with me and likes to be dominated and pretty much nailed really hard while acting slutty. She's also talked about having threesomes and told me she doesn't want one with her husband as it doesn't excite her but she's like one with me.What's your story?.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I agree with the point you are making kissmetenderly (all 3 of them LOL) however whilst I don't personally condone cheating for the same reasons you outline, I think it can't hurt to consider the 'ol "walk a mile in their shoes" concept. How is it that people assume to know another's individual situation so easily? I consider myself open-minded enough to understand and even respect the OP's point without actually agreeing with it. Infact, I didn't take from her comment that she was so much condoning cheating, as expressing surprise that she wasn't alone in having conflicted feelings within her marriage. People who rationalise cheating tend to hold their own view regardless of others' opinions about their doing it. I don't see how other people's 'support' on a sex site would mould a person's value system to an extent where they would base free opinions on their decision to cheat or to rationalise cheating. Flirty x
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'kissmetenderly' im sorry but where have all the people gone who believe in marriage and wha it stands for Im so over people saying my partner doesnt understand me im not getting what i need at home blah blah blah Cheating is cheating i dont care how you dress it up how you justify it Ok we are a breed who really cant have one partner in life as far as sex goes but bloody hell the lies the cheating and the 2 face people who come up with all the excuses under the sun to justify why they cheat and peopel on here go i understand you i know what you are going through bullshit Im sorry but if u want to cheat on your partner do 2 things leave or talk to your partner about how u r feeling But in todays mainstream throw way excusse people have its much easier to cheat on someone and come in to this chat site and get support from all the other cheaters cheating is cheaingt no matter how u dress it up get real people and stop the bullshitThis is more like the response I figured this thread would draw, and thus people who might respond are driven away to alter their profiles to single and refrain from contributing.The trouble with this type of response is that it's not actually relevant, clearly the OP wasn't looking for permission and you have decided this warrants a dressing down from yourself.I am afraid that if you have no other input other than NO then perhaps you should merely avoid this thread, this isn't a church group, you have decided to come on and stake out boundaries, which is self righteous and frankly rude, I am sure there are things in your life that some do gooder would consider taboo, if you don't want to fuck married people then good for you, don't do it. I am sure there are some very good arguments for the sanctity of marriage that you could reel off, but you are not the marriage police, just another horny human on a sex site who has decided you need to jump on and condemn someone for being as horny as you are but in a much more uncomfortable position.Responses like yours don't change anything, you haven't helped anyone, just bullied a few people who might have contributed into staying quiet. The OP is clearly anonymous like those who are contributing, so for once why not observe the discussion rather than stamp it out, you know full well you aren't changing anything.
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RHP User
14 years ago
The first thing that came to mind when i read the post was this song by Rupert Holmes...... I was tired of my lady,We've been together too long.Like a worn-out recording,Of a favorite song.So while she lay there sleeping,I read the paper in bed.And in the personals column,There was this letter I read:"If you like Pina Coladas,And getting caught in the rain.If you're not into yoga,If you have half-a-brain.If you like making love at midnight,In the dunes of the cape.I'm the lady you've looked for,Write to me, and escape."I didn't think about my lady,I know that sounds kind of mean.But me and my old lady,Have fallen into the same old dull routine.So I wrote to the paper,Took out a personal ad.And though I'm nobody's poet,I thought it wasn't half-bad."Yes, I like Pina Coladas,And getting caught in the rain.I'm not much into health food,I am into champagne.I've got to meet you by tomorrow noon,And cut through all this red tape.At a bar called O'Malley's,Where we'll plan our escape."So I waited with high hopes,Then she walked in the place.I knew her smile in an instant,I knew the curve of her face.It was my own lovely lady,And she said, "Oh, it's you."And we laughed for a moment,And I said, "I never knew..That you liked Pina Coladas,And getting caught in the rain.And the feel of the ocean,And the taste of champagne.If you like making love at midnight,In the dunes of the cape.You're the love that I've looked for,Come with me, and escape.""If you like Pina Coladas,And getting caught in the rain.If you're not into yoga,If you have half-a-brain.If you like making love at midnight,In the dunes of the cape.I'm the lady you've looked for,Write to me, and escape."I guess the only advice we would give is talk to your Hubby you never know, he might feel the same way. S
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PartyOrg
14 years ago
Nice one CnS lovely poetry
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RHP User
14 years ago
Old morals have been compromised significantly by so many mind opening innovations now. Back in the day who would have thought we would be subscribing to an online forum/meeting place of this magnitude.....a whole world of attention at our fingertips! We just want more now and often what we have, never seems enough. There are no rules to relationships any more other than compromise, otherwise it is about self honesty and what makes you feel valued and happy....if it is one man then more power to you.....if it is many then strap yourself in and be prepared for everything.
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RHP User
14 years ago
im sorry nameinuse i wasnt bullying any one by what i was saying for one this a forum for different peoples views on the subject I dont trust people who lie to their partner I have been on the end of a lying partner and it was an open marriage his excuse was he wanted something to himself and that i wouldnt approve of his choice and said no so he lied I just cant get over how people r so relax and casual about cheating Nooone believes in the marriage anymore thats my view on it Cheating is cheating dont care what u say and how u dress it up People come in this forum asking people what should i do and then a whole lot of people give their piece of advice The person who is about to cheat hears allthe imformation and convince himself that he can cheat because people on rhp say its ok What a load of bullshit Open a big dark hole and push all cheating lying people into it
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RHP User
14 years ago
Ok Ok you have made your point. You wont see anybody's view other than your own.What works for you is fine for you. Others who have an alternate view are entitled to it.
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RHP User
14 years ago
I like many am happy to hear that I'm not alone, although knowing amounts to not much when life is so busy and the answer to the parts that are missing are not found easily online. although it has definately opened the playing field for those in need of more... I will continue to love my family but i can not be told constantly that oral sex is dirty and more than 20 minutes of sex in one mission is too much...especially after she has cum, if I'm not there with her it becomes another mission to keep her interested enough to actually get off myself. Fuck that sounds so horribly pathetic.... not as censored as the opener but I am finding it hard to holdback what is really going on in my life...
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'kissmetenderly' im sorry nameinuse i wasnt bullying any one by what i was saying for one this a forum for different peoples views on the subject I dont trust people who lie to their partner I have been on the end of a lying partner and it was an open marriage his excuse was he wanted something to himself and that i wouldnt approve of his choice and said no so he lied I just cant get over how people r so relax and casual about cheating Nooone believes in the marriage anymore thats my view on it Cheating is cheating dont care what u say and how u dress it up People come in this forum asking people what should i do and then a whole lot of people give their piece of advice The person who is about to cheat hears allthe imformation and convince himself that he can cheat because people on rhp say its ok What a load of bullshit Open a big dark hole and push all cheating lying people into itI told you you would scare everyone away!!!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Oh Yeah!! namesinuse! I like the way you think :-)
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'ally75' Oh Yeah!! namesinuse! I like the way you think :-)I like the way you like the way I think lol, how come you're 3000 k's away Ally!!!!!!
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RHP User
14 years ago
Quoting 'kissmetenderly' im sorry nameinuse i wasnt bullying any one by what i was saying for one this a forum for different peoples views on the subject I dont trust people who lie to their partner I have been on the end of a lying partner and it was an open marriage his excuse was he wanted something to himself and that i wouldnt approve of his choice and said no so he lied I just cant get over how people r so relax and casual about cheating Nooone believes in the marriage anymore thats my view on it Cheating is cheating dont care what u say and how u dress it up People come in this forum asking people what should i do and then a whole lot of people give their piece of advice The person who is about to cheat hears allthe imformation and convince himself that he can cheat because people on rhp say its ok What a load of bullshit Open a big dark hole and push all cheating lying people into itIf you arent happy at least try and talk first - maybe its something that you are both feeling??
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