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Why can't the guys on this site come up with anything original when they send you a message...

July 27 2009

Do all you other ladies out there get message like this "hey babe you're hot wanna meet up" "what you up to, my name is.... lets talk on msn..." Why can't they use their brains and use a bit of originality.. really.. seeing the same things come up on messages just makes me delete them straight away. Does anyone else feel the same way???

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  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I presume it's for similar reasons that the ladies on this site are generally (not all) overly passive and subjective. They are not selective enough and instead of browsing, finding whom they like, targeting properly and writing him an original message , simply wait to receive 300 similar messages and then try to decide which one to go with depending on what mood she is in at the time of reading. I think, one cannot really expect an original message before establishing some form of connecting, and becoming known to each other even if it is basic introduction, name details etc and then expect something more than a generic because of that connection. You are right in many ways. Looking at it differently , sometimes it feels like looking for ice cream in the toy shop. Once in a while the ice cream man may in fact be there. However , most of the time there is none.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I know you addressed this to the ladies but I feel the need to comment. I would ask: What do you want in a message? I agree that "hey babe you're hot wanna meet up" is presumptuous and tacky, but, in relation to "what you up to, my name is.... lets talk on msn..." I also think that being honest and wanting to chat with a view to meet was the main reason for being here. Am I wrong? Is this site flooded with socially inept people who are on here because cyberspace in the only environment where they have a voice? I hope not! I assume most of us are on here to meet new people, for various desired outcomes, yet the use of the phrase "... I am an open-minded person..." seems to drastically misunderstood. Open-minded doesn't mean ignoring or deleting someone's message because they say something you percieve as predictable or cliched. This is called narrow-minded. I hate to say it, but life is cliched. I'm an optimist by all accounts, but also a realist. We're in the year 2009 people - IT'S ALL BEEN DONE BEFORE! On the flip side if they wrote you something like "you have beautiful eyes" or "would you like to go sky-diving sometime?", you'd most like accuse them of being insincere or strange, respectively. Bravery should be commended. Why do you think some people want to chat on msn and meet as soon as possible? Admittedly, you may be right when it comes to most of the men - they just want sex. But it can also be because they want to remove themselves from the judgements and generalisations that can be made by a simple message. That's why I do it anyway. When I started on this sight I tried the approach of "originality" (with tack), but I was replied with ignorance or a misconceptions of arrogance. Now I simply ask to talk to people and, heaven forbid, get to know each other a little more. But ignorance seems to still be a reply. This all comes down to fear. If you're still afraid to communicate online you may as well disconnect your modem and move to Alaska. Of course a lot of times it's that we're just not physically attracted to someone. That's fine, but why not just say so. "Originality" or "Honesty"... you choose!? Well.... that was my catharsis for the day.... :) Anybody share my sentiment?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I delete any tacky email, same as a i delete or dont respond 99% of the time to anyone whos first pic i see, is some body part bar their face. Approaching a woman with hey im horny and got a huge 10 incher lets get it on, aint gonna get guys far, and i dont know when they are goin to learn that. Hey mate ya single and not getting any cause ya a loser is the first thing that pops into my mind lol. Unless your a woman whos really skanky and doesnt have any self respect or worth, no LADY is going to respond to those kind of emails. I may want sex but i aint got cheap and nasty written over my forehead lol...nor do i have easy there

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well said! Writing a message that states the obvious "Hi, I want to get to know you and see if it leads somwhere fun" just won't get you through the door these days.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well, this is a bit of a trade secret... but once I come up with a unique message format..... I store it on my desktop so I can cut and paste it into bulk mail... you know... sex spam. Then all I have to do is a little personalisation relating to the recipient... [insert name here] and so on.... I mean really... what do you expect from us when testosterone takes over? That said.... this is about as good as it gets.... Hey bebe you're hawt (ok... the differences in delivery can be subtle but distincitve!) Would you like to meat up? (well... that's an intentional freudian slip but you get the message) What? You're up too? (You can never have enough punctuation to add depth of meaning) My name is Gazpacho. (Like hell it is) Let's skip msn and play body boggle. ('cause I don't MSN). Ok... thankyou for playing. Warm wet hugs Gaz btw.. you've got some really hawt guys on your contacts list. Who cares if they can't speak!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Yeah some good comments guys... appreciate the feedback MzB

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I automatically delete any message that is directly opposite to what i have stated in my profile. If you didnt take the time to read what Ive written...then why should I take the time to read what you have??

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I usually send a flirt "would you reply if I sent you a message", this gives the other person a chance to look at my profile and decide whether they want to take it further. When they reply I see if they want to chat on msn, this is easier and quicker than sending messages back and forth. I agree that messages can be dull and boring and unimaginative, so msn is a great way to actually communicate. That's what this site is for, to allow people to communicate with each other.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    So you want love stories on an adult site?=? Only so much you can say to someone you don't know, I usually start of with a simple hi I liked your profile and build the convo from there. As for throwing lines etc, thats just for sad ugly kunts.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I'm actually really new to this so I am just in the process of learning the whole cyber thing.  Firstly, I do think that most of the emails sent here are deleted or in a lot of cases the people on the other end arent real, but that could just be my suspicious mind.  Secondly, this isnt a club or a pub so the whole approaching women here is a bit of a learnt thing.   I guess I try to keep my emails simple and to the point tell them somethng about me that maybe my profile doesnt say.  Is that the right thing to do, not sure yet as Ive only been on here for a couple of days.  I guess time will tell.   As to the other parts what does one say to a two dimensional picture that you have no connection with what distinguishes you from the many other people on this site all vying for attention.  The great mystery of life.  For me Im looking for connection not just sex so I would like my partner to be able to hold a conversation and see the funny side of the whole meeting on the internet thing   Far off the point I dont know just thought I would give you a newbies perspective Greg

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I would have to agree "EscapePod". I would say the majority of profiles dont provide anything too personal about themselves. We have nothing to go by. The profiles that do, I will usually initiate a message according to those interests, and try and find some common ground, thats what usually prompts me to message a woman in the first place. The ones that dont, what do u expect? lol Are we meant to guess what ur into? Its the profiles which may show a relatively attractive picture, without anything in the write up, which we think hmm, id like to get to know you, but I dont know anything about you...where to? msn seems most practical So the women who dont receive very creative messages as it were, perhaps its because they provide little to respond to in their written profile.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    StiffInsider, I like that you do take the time to personalise a message to whoever the recepient is in more ways than just changing the address title, and showing actual evidence of interest in the person on a more indepth level than stating "I like your profile...." (then proceeds to reiterate what he wrote on his profile - I can read dammit). I do empathise when you come across a females profile and it's so generic and uninteresting, I don't blame a guy for responding in kind. I find myself in the same situation when I do get the urge to initiate contact and I get extremely frustrated that everyone sounds the same! Unlike a guy though, despite how nice a picture looks, if the write up is bland, then I won't message or flirt, I'm just not inspired enough to want to send a mediocre message. It's like my brain gets sucked into the same grey world that person seems to inhabit. I'd like to think that I've got a creative profile, with plenty fodder to base a message on, yet 99% of the time I still get the generic, "hi" and that's it. Or "Hi like your profile, me me me me me me me me me me me me me me, want to meet?". It's ok to approach someone with a Hi offline, but when you're writing that as a message to someone, that's just woefully lazy. There are the extremely rare exceptions, like if they do have an awesome profile, despite the crap message and one can't help but respond, but like 99% of the messages sent, it's sent by 99% with a generic profile. Just some things to think about guys when you're messaging someone... * What is it about that person that makes you want to initiate contact, other reasons than you want to root them of course, that's usually evident. Yes you like their profile, but why? - Nice picture, then say so, mentioned what you liked about the picture. For example, this guy had a photo with him on a picturesque beach, I messaged him asking where that beach is. It's trivial but it got the ball rolling, conversation flowing. It was a hot photo, nice eye candy, and I wasn't so much interested in the beach, but it was just a tool to initiate contact. - A statement that struck a chord with you, then say which statement, and why did it strike a chord. - Something they said that you're not sure about, ask a question about that thing. Like for example, I mentioned I love durian, most people wouldn't know what that is, so when i receive a message asking what it is, or mention that they know something about it, it show's that they've actually read my profile, and that's looked on more favourably than the generic. - Show interest in the person other than what they like to do sexually, yes we're here for sex, that's a given, but ask questions that don't necessarily pertain to sex, be a little different. * Mention why you think you'd be a match to that person, what was it about their profile that you think meshed with yours. Think about it guys, it has to be a better excuse than the fact that you've got a penis therefore a woman will automatically want you. Heck, I hear enough females complaining about males contacting them even though they're only looking for women. So Please Please Please Please PLEASE, read what they're are looking for and respond in kind. And if they are a bit ambiguous about what it is they're looking, ASK THEM. This is also a chance for them to get a bit of an insight into your character, it might not be important to you what a womans character is, but to us women, we'd like to know you're relatively not psycotically crazy, and that they won't be in danger if they do meet you. I've got a more detailed posting somewhere else, but this is just a short version. Guys you don't need to write essays, all that can be written in a few sentences. If you're really short on time, then save a template and just tailor it to the person you're sending it to, and when I say tailor it, I do mean more than changing the name of the person you're addressing to.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I get heaps of messages like "Hi I'm ... my MSN is ... if you want to chat".  My profile says I don't MSN, don't any of you guys read profiles.You pay good money to send messages why do you waste your time sending lame ones when you have so much competition and us girls have so much choice.  When I do reply (which is rarely) I only reply to guys who show they have read my profile and put some effort into personalizing the message.:-)SF

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    You say ........ "Why can't they use their brains and use a bit of originality.. really.. seeing the same things come up on messages just makes me delete them straight away" I did and you deleted my message anyway!  (Or was it just read and thrown in the trash - same thing, different words) Methinks communication, how you write messages and treat other people is a two way street ALL THE TIME - not just when you feel like being superior

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    just to prove a point that there are people here who are a bit more creative?  or were you seriously interested in hooking up with her? she is looking for someone 20-26, not 60. i'm not sure of many 21 yr olds are interested in 60 yr olds unless you're rich and powerful and she's the gold digger type. but you're right it is a two way street. if i was a guy, i wouldn't message her. even if i did fit whatever it is she seemed to be looking for. she's very very pretty in that pic, but the content of the profile doesn't inspire any creativity now that I've had a peek, so I can understand now why she's probably getting the kind of messages she's complaining about. I think basically, you generally get what you put in.(Except in the case of sites like this where the ratio of guys to girls are ridiculous and men being more visual creatures and heeding the little head more than the big head will generally take the easiest route despite the effort or lack thereof one puts in ones profile. Just the picture matters.) however, I'm not a guy and it takes more than a pretty picture to generally inspire me to message.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    If the girl doesnt like his looks she wont reply.  No matter how creative you are in your email some guy before has already said it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well, i think you all have said exactly what the problem is... 1) People often don't read the profile and just jump on the fist pic they see 2) with a huge number of guys on compared to women you are often going to see numerous messages that read the same 3) with all the effort that is put into trying to meet new people when you first join RHP and the success rate you can get yourself into a "why the fuck do i bother with effort" attitude and start sending the said messages 4) for god's sake, some people actually do show a little bit of discression when it comes to this... If i don't want to show my face on my profile, respect that. Message me back and I might show you a pic where my face is visable! OK!!! and finally... 5) girls, make a move on guys for a change and you might not get the same sleazy "hi, you wanna hook up" messages! it often shocks us guys to be contacted first and puts us on the back foot...   That's all. Thank you.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Actually...I am the opposite.If I dont like what you have written...I wont even bother to look at your profile.Brains appeal to me more than looks.So guys....my advice would be...read her profile....then send a message that shows that you have read it.Make a witty comment....and by all means.....put in that you think she is hot....just dont make that theonly thing the message says.  Would you want to get messages that only said..."nice cock, lets fuck"???.....hang on..bad example! lmfao!Your first message on here is like your opening line to a hot chick at a bar.Make it a good one!!!Just my opinion....BJxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    at telling everybody "look at me guys think I'm hot".  Even though you act like you are annoyed deep down you enjoy the attention.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    It's not easy for a guy to jump right in and bare his soul in his first message I'm sure. Would we really expect this in a bar or grocery queue? I always check the profile, spelling mistakes and text abbreviations usually put me off. So do excessive emoticons! Escape Pod, now there is a man who knows how to stir the soul... Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing...there is a field...I'll meet you there. Tx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    The reality of this site is the ratio of women to men eg: last week in Australia 6 pages of women joined the site and 42 pages of men, last month to date 153 pages of men and 25 pages of women.  That is a ratio of 7:1.  Now consider this, 10 women of those 25 pages are paying members opposed to 216 paying men in the past month.  Considering that men can not post messages unless they have a paid membership and women have message restrictions then the ratio seems to increase dramatically.  Therefore men who can post 50, 20 or whatever messages daily will keep the lady recipients very busy reading if they are interested.  I understand when I send a message it needs to be brief so I state the basic and invite people to chat with me.  Sure tacky or crass may not work with everybody and it is not my choice for introduction either, but if it offends you maybe this is not the site for you, if it bores you then your 100 messages that you recieved today just got easier to to sort through same as spam (delete); now maybe you have 20 worth reading? I am sure most men here are lucky to recieve 4 or 5 messages a week and for every chat invitation we offer maybe 5% are kind enough to say no and 1% say hello.  I am not disillusioned or angry by this it just makes it easier to know who is real and who maybe you might be able to get along with. This site is very hard for men simply because of the usually our desires and interests are very simple and maybe I speak for myself here, but I believe the best introduction is honest, a little informative and brief with an invitation to engage further conversation.  but heres my stats: 3 month on the site, sent 15 pages of messages had 3 pages of replies of the messages sent about 30% unread and I do have a pic, i do not present my cock, and never asked anyone if they horny, and yet to meet a woman either and I am here seriously.  So mzbeautician if you are bored by invitations to chat, then maybe you are only realy interested in listening to yourself, so good luck. Cheers Oscar

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I think you think too much and have over analized everything which is depressing. Chillaxe and have fun mate. People who smile get dates.   Hugs Gazza

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Without being arrogant i consider myself a good catch. I`m fit, healthy, honest, friendly, educated, intelligent, good looking and respectful. I read a profile and try to judge what they want to hear and initiate contact if i find their profile interesting. I refuse to send graphic messages as its just too tacky. I`m not going to give away too many details about myself in the opening rounds.. too risky. I`m not going to be pushy and arrogant.. too much of a turn off. I try to be polite. I like showing good manners and getting them in return. For me that leaves a simple short introduction.. What sort of originality can i inject? A short witty anecdote about a trip to the dentist?? A horror story about the last person i met on this site who was the opposite of what she advertised?? Different styles of writing and introduction work differently for all of us and trying to imagine what i can say to you that will project who i am honestly is a fucking mine field and EXTREMELY hard to judge on the two paragraphs and blurry photo i have been given to work with. Expecting the opening salvo to be original and inspiring is expecting too much....

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I think you do Ok Scorpio, however you forgot to mention your humility and irresistible wit!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Hi MZBeautician and thanks to commenters. I think this site is the wrong place for thoughtful and original approaches. I made some approaches and received no replies. It seems this is not unusual. It takes time to write a personalised and original approach. Those of us who are a bit sensitive generally don't enjoy being ignored. So I think I'm better off meeting women in the flesh.Guys who just spam with inane messages are obviously playing the numbers game. Good luck to them. In a sense, the girls get what they deserve. If they responded to intelligent and original approaches they would encourage more of that behaviour. So long; thanks for all the fish.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    If your profile is short, bland and proforma, then the inspiration to write to you at all has to come from something else. Maybe it's your perky nipple photo.. maybe it's something you have said in this forum or in teh chat room...... maybe it is a simple thing.. like your age or hair colour.... but whatever it is, it is up to YOU to provide the inspiration for men to write something genuine and creative and interesting for you... So, if the only thing you have going for you is that your profile happens to say that you are "female" then all you can expect is "hey, do you want a root?".. you only have yourself to blame. Just saying there are some seriously sexy profiles out there that don't need much effort for a guy to be creative in his approach to her.... and then there are all the others. Hugs Gazza

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I just looked at your profile and it contains absolutely no information about.  Maybe you should write a bit about what you have to offer besides a vagina and people will write you more interesting emails.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I never write such messages. It's much better to try to contact a girl and approach her like a lady. Girls all need an ice breaking even if they deny it! That's their hidden mental behaviour. Just getting to the point and asking for MSN or phone number and etc. wouldn't attract them mainly unless they are horny and looking for the spot! But most of girls on this site don't really know what they want and what to do. You read their profile, they are looking for X, Y and Z and you are/have X, Y and Z but they respond to your message "thanks for your message but you don't match what I'm looking for"!!! r they respond positive "thanks for your message. I liked your profile, hope to talk to you soon" and they never get back to you or they change their username!!! They may be looking for "Ice Cream" in a furniture shop! Back in Europe you may fling just like a snap on such websites! a message, respond, out for a drink on same night or so and that's it! you may like each other or not but it is for real and you know what will happen! At the end, I think regardless of what we write for girls they are still looking for their man riding the White Horse coming from Royal properties!

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I probably should rewrite my profile one day, but at this point in my life I'm happy meeting guys at the footy or basketball.  I have made it tough for most guys to meet me, but it works for me and I've never been short of a date when I've wanted to go out.  As for "wantfuntimes", well, one of my grandfathers is sixty, enough said.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Hi , The first thing I do is send a friend add, if a girl responds to a friend add I'll invest in a message.  The most important thing at first for me is that a woman is actively going to respond then I know they are using this site.  Then we can get in contact and Instant Message chat.Chat is a great way of communication as it happens in real time.  Waiting for messages [ or forum responses ] can be dissapointing/frustrating.So if this site is for getting in contact with authentic desirable females it should provide a free Instant Messenger. xoxoxoGandiva

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Ouch Sarafun that stings! Lmfao you'd be good company at the footy.... chardonnay in hand. I went to the Manly/Roosters game last night. For a second or two I thought I saw you waving pom poms. :p but then I remembered you are in Perth and probably go and cheer for the West Coast Eagles and not the Manly Sea Eagles. More's the Pity. The point of my post you ask? The Roosters got flogged... haha.  Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    About Mewell you never really know what to write in these things do you....? outgoing, friendly, bubbly... thats me I am Looking For fun people How are we meant to repond to that, maybe before you start giving guys shit for writing short emails you should look at your own profile. Its hard for us to come up with something original in response to that. Give and Take, give us something to work with and you might find you get better responses. Why don't you try visiting the chat rooms first having a chat with someone and finding out what there like then exchange emails, contacts etc and have a proper conversation, thats why we ask for msn details. Ps. Yes Brighty I'm fired up again!

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    We want to meet for sex.. so we want to meet for a coffee and a chat to see if we like you .. ASAP .. so what's the point in playing email ping pong .. if we like each other then we make a date, if not we had a chat and a coffee ..   You can't tell if you like someone over the net.. the only way to find that out is to meet them .. the sooner the better before you start to make judgements based on the originality of their profile / messages.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    AN AMAZINGLY HONEST INSIGHT TO THESE SORTS OF PAGES THEY WE INADVERTENTLY BECOME HOOKED ON! WELL DONE ON BRINGING THE THOUGHTS OF MANY TO THE FOREFRONT. CHEERS   JOHHNO

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    how about you spend a little cash and upgrade your membership..... that way you can start sending messages....and after sending a few maybe you will get tired of writing "original" messages that dont get a response....

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I find it strange your asking guys to use there brains and be original when your own profile does not even have a little of either? Kind of contradictory would'nt you think?

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    To agree with everyone else's comments Mzbeautician your profile does not give anyone anything to comment on.  I (as a couple and a single girl) always reply to any message but if the guy has gone to some effort to make an interesting message I always thank him for being original.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    I send a lot of messages and very rarely get replies. I would be wasting a lot of time if I tried to make every message unique or original.   i want to know how many of the girls on here are actually hooking up?? It seems like the same girls are on here every time i get on?? some of them must be fake or 'just looking' ???? If they were meeting guys, well they wouldn't have time to be on here every day.   ... and what's wrong with a quick "sorry, not interested" or a "tell me more about yourself"( if you were interested that is) At least i actually bothered to pay for membership and send a message

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    As I have stated time and time again and once again I speak only for myself. The very best sex I have is with someone I make a mental connection with. I very much enjoy the exchange of witty conversation. I could have coffee lunch or drinks with numerous potential play mates and so for me it is a form of first contact screening. I have found I have dismissed a lot of potentials because I haven't given them time of day. So please put your best foot forward. As you can read from my profile I am also looking for something very unique so I have moved all pics to my private gallery which stops alot of Gee I could be interested because you look hot. It's not haeps of random sex I am after. Such a relief to find someone who reads and considers my profile. Miss K

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    i think for those of us that do have a brain, that do put in a little thought, and that do take time to read profiles are still going to struggle on a site where the proportion of men to women is so... out of proportion. by that i mean for every one guy with original thoughts... that is anything other than "your hot, lets fuck" there is still another 100 out there with the exact same original thoughts. kinda makes them unoriginal and uninspiring doesn't it??? If I sat down for an hour seriously contemplating what to write to someone, i still couldn't come up with an original message. maybe i'm just one the 99% of unoriginal blokes on here. for me just saying "Hi i'm camming, this is a bit about me, wouldn't mind chatting sometime, i'm usually in chat around these times if you want to say hi, or just email me back" not original. not inspiring. just simple. honest. if that doesn't get a response, i'm not interested.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Well it's funny to see some of these comments especially the hypocritical realisation when comparing profiles. I have tried all sorts of messages, short and sweet, long and thoughtful, witty, straightforward and it seems that none have any better response than others. I have a profile that does not have any of the profile hint/help crap in it that half of the female profiles are soley made up of.So why do guys not respond with originality. Well sure there are those that are too dim witted to think of anything but there are also those that are just so sick of getting no reply after spending an hour writing up a good message that they begin to just write simpler messages. You wonder why guys put that they want to talk on msn. Well that is a simpler one, it is far better to talk on msn. It is easier, you can have a running conversation which is far better than just writing the equvalent of an email and some people are on msn more than RHP. It is harsh to have a go at people asking to talk on there. If you are worried that they will then want to talk to you on there after you lost interset in them there is a solution. It is called the block settings. Not real hard to work out so what have you got to lose. I will always offer my msn, whether the person chooses to use it or not is up to them.All in all though it is a numbers game that is weighted to the females favour. It has already been said that a lot of females don't bother reading the message, instead just looking at the age, location and picture and then deciding if they will bother. Unfortunately that is something that is easy for them to do. So that is what a lot will do.

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    great topic, sumthin im sure girls (and guys) get frustrated with, ive read and agreed wit most the replies here, but the first response from "EscapePod" hit a chord wit me... my 1st profile not the 1 i hav now, i put a massive effort in, exactly what i want (and dont want) original, gr8 pics etc... then get the '300' responses lol get totally overwhelmed, dont read more than the first 10, end up deletin the lot, then head down the pub 2 pick up the old fashion way haha this time i keep my pic in pg most the time, hav a really basic profile, and it has helped heaps wit the style of message i get and how many messages i get, plus i find i spend more time havin a look myself and sendin flirts to who catches 'my eye' rather then sittin bak and only 'replyin' single girls get so many messages that they r goin 2 start lookin the same, i dont really think we can blame the guys, when u check who's online and there r 2000 guys and only 200 girls lol well its a single girls world in here! i think when a guy mentions a bit about your profile that is cool, shows he read it, and i personally like the short and sweet 'hi my name is .... how ru, abit about himself etc" i find the long drawn out messages that u know he has sent to a hundred other women as big a turn off as the 'hey babe, how bout it"

  • RHP

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    16 years ago

    Boys will be boys

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    RHP User

    16 years ago

    was almost going to send a response and hit something and lost the lot der!!!!!!!!!! here i go againmrs here.im pretty sure rhp is a site dedicated to meeting strangers and stuff, so one would expect to get some boring messages. not always a bad thing, what can u say to interest someone u dont know???  i tihnk its what comes after the original message that counts.  i do agree with some guys on here, pay for membership and see how many original messages u want to write, and why the hell cant some of the women do the chasing, i was sure we are past the dark ages and had feminism and all that junk, lol, bras were burnt to give us the power use it god dam!!!!!! stop sitting around waiting for the perfect guy to hit on you.the girls/women who have commented " i rarely reply anyway" seriously wtf, why are u here??????? do u need to be told ur hot from stranger to gain some sort of self satisfaction or confirmation of what you think of yourself???  your wasting the time of some genuine people.im not sure how much of this made sense (did to me,lol) but gee, get over yourself and enjoy the ride!! its all about fun and fucking, if your after a meaningful relationship this may not be the place for you.ride the rainbow and enjoy the ride. xxxxx

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Amen to that!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    amen to that!

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    This is a broad generalisation but to all the fellas out there who are fed up with writing long introduction emails and getting nothing in return.....why don't you try putting all that energy into your profile. Write more about yourselves (on a deeper level), so that when she reads your profile, and she will, she will decide if your the kind of guy she might like to get to know. If you are, she will respond. For me, a handsome photo and an 8 incher isn't enough information to get me interested in a guy.   The other thing too is that there are thousands of men here...if you really want to get her attention, you need to stand out from the crowd. Of course, there's no guarentees but hey, how much do you want to get to know her. Sometimes, you need to try again and you may just get luky second time around.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I strongly disagree with some of the comments made saying that RHP is just a sex site and if your not up for it, then bugger off. People come here for many reasons and we all have different motives. Some are just looking for someone to talk to, some just want intimacy and nothing else and some want to have a relationship. No-one should be judged or labelled  or be told that they have to be a certain way (liars and predators excluded).   I do agree that it is extremely rude when women...and men for that matter...do not reply to a message but with regards to the flirt...those flirt replies don't always express what you want to say. For example, I live in Albury and I have stated quite clearly in my profile that I am looking for people who also live in the Albury Wodonga area ONLY!!. Can you guess how many messages and flirts I stilll get from people in Sydney and Melbourne? There's no flirt reply saying "thanks for the attention but you live too far away".   It's not always black and white.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I HATE those messages.  They get deleted straight away.  For security reasons there is no way I'm just going to ring a strangers number off the internet.  Seriously guys, put a little bit of thought into what you write, we might right back...then you won't be all bitching that theres no real ladies on this site.  I prefer a bit of conversation via the website then I 'might' give you my email.  There's no way I'm going to ring you and hook up with you tonight....if you want something like that, go to a prostitute.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I have mixed feelings on this issue. I use to write witty messages and use to get good responses. But if profiles are bland then wth am i meant to do? Other than comment how many million messages a day someone gets because they have a nice ass? Profiles that basically state 'hey, i have no personality, but here's a picture of my vagina'. Well what do you expect? I do tend to do the whole 'hi how are you?' message, then point out how bland and boring it is. example"hi, how are you? Yes i no.....boring message......But how else are you meant to start a conversation without freaking someone out?Honestly.......I just don't think cracking into the heavy stuff about quantum mechanics and the psychology of carrots will really get someones attention........"That got nothing at all. This persons profile was bland 'im sexy and love to have fun'. Well what do you classify as fun? I no people who collect stamps and think thats fun? Gee atleast be alittle bit person. Add your name for starters, would be nice to address a message to someone.....not just 'Hi "nice girl with big tits number 127".Alright this went alittle off topic. So to get back on topic. Its been said plenty of times already, but i agree, Make your profile original and maybe something interesting will come your way, Sure you'll still get a large ratio of messages from guys who see 'female' and hit 'send message' before having read your name. Thats why you (the consumer) look at each message individually. If you cant do that, then potentially you dont really belong on something like these websites where complete strangers will try to start conversations with you.Abcynthia - Agreed, im sorry, but people have to earn an email address or phone number. Yes mine are listed....which reminds me i have to change that. But if your a generic boring person who cant write anything even half witty/funny/interest or honest in your profile, then why the hell would i want to spend MY time getting to no you? Get people on msn? Why if you cant be half interesting.  So yes, i agree Abcynthia (just incase that kinda read wrong, i was adding points to your comment)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Hehe, I like stamps =) and playing WoW YES!! I'm that fun to be around ...  And for peeps reading this and thinking WTF.. my job is done. Enjoy

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Because the girls don't need to try at all to get someone interested.   Here, even more than in the reel world, pretty gets offers, offers, offers.  So they can be as picky as they like.   Girl wants 25 - 30 year old body builder with boat and motorbike - who is up for cross dressing and mmf action.  Then she has the choice of only about 40 to 50 men in her immediate area.   Supply and demand.  Youthful attractive women are in very short supply here and can make any demand they want.   Does not mean they are worth the effort though ...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I just want to say that the dude from Kingsford "niceguy44" is ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON!!! im sorry ladies but it's true. it is extremely frustrating when all you want to do is have a chat with a nice lass but cant get any sort of response no matter what tact you take. Again in agreement with niceguy44, if your not attracted or whatever thats fine but at least give us the "cliched" automated response of not interested, it takes two seconds. These sites are heavily weighted in favour of the female so I realise that as a girl on this site you must get squillions of flirts and/or messages everyday and it would be frustrating on your side of the fence to read the same crap everytime. But at least take the opportunity if this does happen (and if you like the look of the bloke obviously) to have a quick read of his profile, because if you delete and dismiss immediately upon receiving such a message then no one wins and again I think narrow minded unfair of you. Im not a bad lookin bloke, im a childrens nurse and i have my own business too! im not sure what you lovely ladies want us to say that isn't rude or over the top??? And regarding the whole MSN thing, in our defence lets be honest its the guys who generally initiate contact in most circumstances and if you are like me and only have a limit of 5 messages to send per day it can be tough, and Im not sure sure if you are aware but MSN is FREE so you can cyber chat for ages and actually get to know someone a little rather than having to pay for the privelage of writing a few "unoriginal" or "stereotyped" messages with no response. Do any of you ladies out there empathise with what Im trying to say???

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I've put a fair bit of effort into my profile and still I get stupid messages asking me if I wanna hook up. And mostly from people in Sydney and Melbourne despite the fact that I have clearly stated Im only interested in people in my area.   However, I still always be courteous and look at the senders profile. 90% of them say "im lost for words at the moment, I will come back later to update" and they have said that for the last several months. From that kind of profile, how the hell am I supposed to know if this guy is someone I might like to get to know?   If any of you fellas have any ideas on how I can encourage some effort and discourage messages from people outside my search area then please, give me some feedback.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    What i love is how most ladies in this site, always say there looking for mister righ, but really all you girls want is mister brainless wank who has a fit bod and pretty face. If you were serious about wanting to meet mister right you would chat to the ugly blokes let me, i'm not pretty but at least i know how to not act like i'm up myself or love myself. Give all blokes a chance. or stop bitching about never meeting mister right......

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    about 2% of the emails i send even get read. Bugger all of them are "hit-ons" my profile says I am not even here for sex.. having said that.. every now and again, i take someones fancy, and she will contact me.. every now and again out of those few.. we get to meet, and becomes friends, lovers or both.. OR we dont! :)   Originality? I THINK my emails are REASONABLY original.. but, if they are not read, I may as well say... "fck u scrag" :)   either way, itg is a numbers game.. you send 50 emails a day.. you will get 5 or 10 replies.. once a week, one of them will be a score.. IF you are into that stuff :)   keep free peoples!!   kio

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    It seriously has to be asked why a 60 year old is looking for a 21 year old or even younger according to your profile. Do you think every woman over 40 is not up to scratch?? Or maybe it is cos with someone younger you can hopefully be more persuasive with them??

  • Ringleader

    Ringleader

    16 years ago

    I sent this one recently:   " You make me feel the way I did when I was 10.   I used to build model aeroplanes back then. If I work on you will I get all sticky?"

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    lolz Loveprod.. beautiful prose. As an aside, I once made a model plane without my undies on... some of that glue dropped down my shorts leg... man that areoplane glue really stings your delicates so be careful! hehe   Hugs Gaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    so you should be grateful.. the short messages are not just a sign of lameness of the mind.. they also show laziness.now a real bloke would write a killer intro note... and CTRL+C CTRL+VLRE (geek me out)

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    well i always read the profile first and if i like what i read then i'll email.  and when i email i try to tell them a little about what i liked about their profile as well as a little about myself.  not to long mind you, i know women on here get many emails each day.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    On both sides actually. On the firstI appreciate you women get a tone of messages that are a waste of time. Anything that is a sentence long, focused only on boasting penis size is an arrogant headspace and focused on finding a fling.On the otherside I must agree with the guys. We do only have 5 messages a day, and while there are unlimited replies, there is a limit to how many days we can spend sending messages - after which we need pay another $50 to try again. The intent of most men online is to get offline - email correspondence as a minimum. This is a dating site and our intended desire is to meet someone who is great for us. We are not here to socialize - if we were we would be focusing our attention on Face-book or Myspace.The reason I mention this is we aren't trying to be uncreative. We are making an effort but after being put down 30 times in just one week, it starts to feel lacking - especially since we have spent the money to make the effort. I can appreciate you ladies want the ideal man to appear before you, but fact is if you are going to be picky about his complete appearance you may let him slip by and you won't even realize it.We write the 'repetitious' messages because, in the end, every message is designed with the single intent of MAKING CONTACT and that is all. I appreciate a woman who takes a few moments to send a "Thankyou but I'm not interested" as it lets me know she's not deleted my message by accident and sincerly does NOT want to pursue any chance of meeting. It would also help us if you provided more in your profile. If you want us to comment on you, give us something to comment on. Tell us more of you. Let us know why we should message you. If you offer nothing then that's another reason our messages are carbon-copy - we are asking you to give us a chance to find out more. If you want more, give us more. You can't expect a fire to keep you warm if you expect it to fuel itself.To sumarize, as a number of guys above has said, we just want to meet. The message is an attempt to achieve this intent. We don't expect you to want us, we don't expect you to fall for us from it. We just want you to give us a chance to get to meet you (online or offline) so you can make a fair decision if you want to take it further and see how it results. If you put your entire decision on just a single message (unless it is one of the truely crude and poorly written) you may find yourself missing out on some great outings with some new people. And if you want more detailed messages, give us more detailed profiles and we will be happy to respond in kind.Hope this fixes things.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I just recently joined up (Still awaiting damn validation!) and this thread has been an interesting read. I understand that everyone needs a choice in who they talk to and what they do with people but the sad reality is a few of the posts in this thread seem like some women purely come here for an ego boost. Some need the flirts, need those messages and need that male attention through RHP for their confidence.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Ive only just started this stuff,infact this is my first reply in forum.From all the statistics and %,s& the odds against guys even getting replies let alone anything else,well Im a bit disheartened.But Ill try . Hey , if your as articulate as u are perfectly formed the own mental offspring should be Nobel prize winners.Send me a message if u want me to talk to u some more.Cheers

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I like to think that I spend a bit of time in making both my profile and emails interesting and yes it does get frustrating when you don't get a response but it's the boring "let's Fuck" guys that make it hard for us thinkers. I like to read the ladies profile and see what I can offer her and I tell her making sure I address her requirements, you also need to make sur you don't make it sound like your writing in dot points.I;d like to see just a thanks but no thanks at least but some of you ladies are very very popular and just don't have time.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    just thought id comment on my reply rate... which you can check by going to "view profile statistics" tab at the top of your homepage. i have a 75% reply rate from women i message on this site. flirts is only 19%. thats why i email. and if you want to scroll back to the top of the page you can see the type of messages i write. i wrote a general outline to my emails sumwhere up there lol. anyways. just thought that might help some

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    I'm not sure the statistics given by RHP are very useful ... It says I've sent 593 messages and recieved 667 replies giving a rate of 115%... now.. how many of those are women I haven't got a clue.. it doesn't tell me.. but lots of people I write to have automatic replies and then reply in person... which obviously boosts my stats.   My flirt rate is not so glamorous... 484 flirts and 268 replies making a reply rate of 55%.... Again, I have no idea how many of those were women... .but then I guess it is possible that around 200 of those flirts could have been sent to Camming..... Sweetjeebus it just occured to me that is obviously why he blocked me... lmfao.   Hugs Gazza

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Lets all stop yabbering and do the exact opposite.SIGN LANGUAGING!Granted, its crude and rude and to the point but hey...works for the deef pple.. like me! :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Maybe my statistics would be as strong as yours if I had access to three accounts and spammed myself with them!lmao, just kidding. :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    When people don't have the decency to reply to a message, even if it's; 'sorry but I'm not interested.'I generally try to send a message that the person I'm contacting can relate to, because let's face it, your chance of success is unlikely if you don't bother to spend the time to introduce yourself.  First impressions are everything, as the saying goes.I realise that some people are really busy, and perhaps after you've not had a message back after sending two (of your daily quota, that shit's like gold dust people! lol) maybe you should get the message.  However, once person I messaged had read both my messages and I asked why I hadn't received a reply, stating that it's common decency to atleast send a message back if you're not interested, I wouldn't ignore someone if they spoke to me on the street!  Anyway, she replied back saying she had meant to reply but had lost track of time, and was inundated with messages (she's a woman, duh!) and then we got chatting.So, I guess what I'm trying to say is:Guys leave the girls alone, your messages are stopping them from replying to me!lol

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    hehe.. that's funny casual... maybe we should have a roster system where guys messages are restricted one week on and two weeks off.... so we all get a turn at lobbying for female attention!   But errr.. oh yeah.... Casualsexboy.... sorry I didn't respond to your message.. lolz.   Hugs Gazza

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    whinging...hang on...just getting me baby violin out so i can play youse guys some sympathetic music...if ya go on messaging gals whose age range u r outside...REJECT, REJECT, DELETE...ya need ta make yaself stand out from the crowd...yes, YOU DO need to make time and effort...if ya want them to A) read ya email and B) respond...women are very, VERY intelligent...so, ya needs ta be speaking ta their brain, not there...ahem...ya know...who said it that patience is a virtue...if ya wanna have a bit of fun TONIGHT...well, HELLO!!!...chances are about 10% minus 20%...that's -10% if ya not good at da subtrakting fing...hehei have read bland profiles, and they intrigue me...and yes, i have been guilty of sending stupid crass emails...hey, we all make mistakes...and yes, sometimes my fingers type a message to someone completely unsuitable...and then somehow they then press the SEND button...naughty fingers...like life, if ya want it ta fall in ya lap....GO OUT AND GET IT...it ain't gunna come ta ya...cheersJose...

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Whether the message is inventive or just plain crude, at least the poor bugger has taken the opportunity to message you.  Be polite and reply to the received message.  There is no reason why you can't reply in the same tone as their message is sent, and if your a member what does it cost.  I personally respond to every single message whether it be a positive, a negative or even a maybe.  Some people may not be good at written communication, don't write them off until you have had the chance to talk to them.  The old saying is "Don't judge a book by its cover", take the trouble to find out a bit more about the person, you may even find the one just right for you.Shaz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    umm well when guys see my pic they dont even read the shit on my page they just email me and be like "just cuz im a sleeze, u have to be one 2. when can we meet" lol then u just flick them off... thers hot guys on here tho :P

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    i'd rather a full bottle in front of me than a full frontal lobotomy.....I love red wine. I love pouring it over my intimate partners and laughinhg like all hell as I lick it up, fuck knows. be yourself. dont dribble shit, dont BS. Chemistry casnt be faked. cheers all.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    While I can't quite make sense of MCMLX's point... this has been an interesting read.    My take on it - be warned, this may give some unwanted insight into my mind... it's a male mind, so fairly small... let's not all try to squeeze in there at once!   I look at a profile and decide whether I find the person 'attractive'.  That's based on either pics or profile description.  I then read the profile and if we are not 'suited', I move on, if things look OK I send a message or flirt.  (Nothing new here yet I suppose).  Sometimes if the profile made me smile I will still message them (even if we aren't compatible) - complement them on their profile, with no evil intentions in mind.   The problem is coming up with a message for 'generic' profiles.  As per example (a) below.  Now there will be a large number of ladies who will say "That's my profile"...   ummm it's not.  It's a cut and paste job, and the same one is used over and over by countless people making up the numbers here.   "Very horny and in need of attention… NOW!" "Hi! I'm a xx year-old woman. I'm not afraid to ask for what I want in bed so watch out! My friends say that I have a pretty face and that I'm gorgeous. I love going out shopping and having coffee with friends. I am not seeking a relationship but would like someone I could meet regularly. " Pretty hard to come up with a personalised message there, would you agree?  So all I can suggest is asking to get to know them better..  I guess most times that puts me in the "Pushy sleazebag wants to meet and fuck on a first date" pile.  Not my intention, but generic profiles will receive a fairly generic message.    I don't know where my rant is heading - I guess I'm agreeing with many of the posts in this thread - if you want some original messages, come up with a non-generic profile.. You'll still get a shipload of messages telling you that there are 8 inches (6 really) of love muscle waiting for you... but you might get one or two real ones.   Happy New Year

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    G'day ALL. Hey sexy, your a grouse lookin sheila, wanna do it ?    LOL     ahhhhh the romance of it all.   I definately would like the female members to be a bit more forward and approachfull, I very much agree that tact and style mean alot when a fellas wants to first contact a lady, pretty much common manners and respect to her. It's also good to know that there are really are women who will say they like sex and are secure within themselves . The  reason why we are here is to enjoy meeting and find others who enjoy sex and all it's different aspects, be mature enough to realise that we are adults, and that sex ( & I don't mean just intercourse) is very human, and it's within us all to embrase and enjoy it what ever turns your wheel. GOOD LUCK TO ALL, have a safe journey in this great site, and a Happy and sexy, safe new year !!! And I never know, I may even be lucky myself and meet one !!  I surf and swim with the dolphins off my local beach and I am sure one of the lady dolphins liked me, we're meeting for luch for sandwitches. Question ---- How do you tuna fish ??                                                                                              Answer   ----  You adjust its scales ;;; hahahahahahaaa I know I know sorry it was lame.   all the best   Sharkzz

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Well Ladies, why dont you understand. The first line you read, decides whether he is your type or not, whether you like him or not. If you dont like the way he approached, then he is not your type. its simple, delete it and move on to the next one. What are you trying? to make the wrong person right, by making him change the way he approaches you?Some people don't have imagination or they are too lazy or less educated to come up with a good pick up line. Not everyone is a Casanova, just like not eveyone is pamela anderson. Life is simple, don't make it complicated. If the person is not imaginative then he cant be good in bed too. So yeah, the person who is contacting you is making your life easier by giving you a chance to decide whether he is good for you or not. Just Analyze it.

  • RHP

    RHP User

    16 years ago

    Bravo Master Escapepod. Bravo indeed. You and I should go fencing some time. And during, we'll discuss the finer things in life. Perhaps a Scotch finger biscuit and some spotted dick. There are no puns in these words my friend.   To be honest, yours is the only post I read. Apart from the opening of course. I figure, every capitalist brosef with half a brain would've pounced on this, drooling at the chance to showcase his versitility and individuality and grasp of all things that fall beneath the monstrous umbrella that is women' needs. "Look at me. Look at me. I'm not like those boring, drab sheep boys... I have an impressive knowledge of the English written word that is expanding faster than a whore' vagina."Ladies. Gentlemen. Take no offence. We're all having a giggle here.