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why is it that a nice girl is defined to be a boring plain vanilla girl??
September 07 2009
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RHP User
16 years ago
I have no idea, personally i think chicks with a wild side rule, as long as they when to behave. Who would want to marry a chick who is dead from the neck down, Its no wonder so many marriages end in divorce. Cheers Nev
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RHP User
16 years ago
ther is this guy I know who is after a typical boring girl who can cook for him and clean his clothes so basically be a mother to him wheres the excitement in that ??
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RHP User
16 years ago
Some humans love a boring life Its ment to be part of fiting in or somthing I dun know
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blackie69
16 years ago
Hi Hotazice, this friend of yours i think is still being spoon-fed by his mum, listening to her and being close like as if he is still baby. In todays world, partners must be adventourous, otherwise sonner or later that relationship is going to get too boring it will break. We arent talking about the 60s and 70s here where people were very consevative. We are in a new millenium,
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RHP User
16 years ago
"The quiet ones are the ones to watch out for"....my stepdad gave me this dodgy advice before I went off to uni and I spent a whole year trying to crack on to quiet, goody two shoes girls that you could take home to meet mum etc....I must have seemed like such a sleaze ! And I spent the whole year wondering why my mates were having sex ! These days I recognise that it takes all kinds to make up the world. How would we know the meaning of a "slut" if we didn't have girls who are the exact opposite ? How wouldwe define a bad girl be if all girls were bad ? Good girls and bad girls - they are all beautiful and unique in their own way...and to my mind...EVERYONE is sexual....if you know the right key to patiently unlock their wilder side...man or woman. Now with a name like HotazIce, perhaps you are exactly as you say, a bit of both....a bit wicked sexually but underneath a wholesome, down to earth girl who just wants to be happy and loved ? Sounds like a pretty cool combination for todays sophisticated, easy going, open minded guy....who is also a bit kinky and explorative when the mood takes him ? So, there she is guys....HotazIce....a gorgeous little conundrum waiting to be unwrapped...ahh to be 25 again....!! lol Dog.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Why do girls immediately assume if a guy is nice, respectful, successful and actually likes to have an intelligent conversation suddenly pigeon holed under the "nice guy" category.Immediately, he becomes not fun, not spontaneous, and a dud in the bedroom. I have to say this long standing stereotype, just like "a girl you take home to meet mum", no longer applies in today's day and age. From my experience most people are to some degree "wild" but its the ones that don't advertise it that are the wildest.The people who see past this and actually experience a person to find out and discover who they are, are the big winners. Okay, so you find some that fit the stereotype but from my experience they are in the minority. It's usually the quiet ones that you need to watch out for...I have had partners that always talked themselves up, but the people that do experience life and are wild, naughty, spontaneous and electric at heart don't need to appear that way cause they are usually too busy experiencing life. Not stroking their own ego.Give me the chance to discover the wild side of a "meet the parents"girl any day. Then the only worrying part is finding out they are wilder than you... you can tell THAT scares me... lol ;)The adventure is helping them find their wild side, as much as it is them helping push me.As for the "housewife" idea I think it is overrated... You want someone that will great you at the front door naked not with a hot meal. Life should be lived not spent bickering over who should be doing what.But humans will always find things to argue about. I would just ignore the people caught up in stereotypes and gender role bullshit, and find someone who is interested in just living life.
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RHP User
16 years ago
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RHP User
16 years ago
My mother's pretty cool with most people (except my ex-wife, but I didn't find that out until I also realised the ex was a basket case) and has met most of my girlfriends... but why does your mother need to know anything about what happens in your bedroom? Even the kinkiest of perverts usually know how to behave at a work do or in polite company. If they're not someone you'd care to be seen in public with, then why would you want them to meet your mother anyway? Cheers :) AllWork
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RHP User
16 years ago
You can wash my clothes whilst I bend you over the washing machine if you like!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Perhaps because long term they want good mothers for their future children and perhaps a woman who is just naive enough that they can secretly carry on their philandering behind her back....Its called having their cake and eating it! I was married to a man who wanted all the benefits of being married, but with a single mans lifestyle....You know...meals cooked, clean house, clean clothes, children cared for etc.....yet to do things as a "family" or help with the kids when I needed the help was just tooooooooo much trouble. But to organise a get together with the boys for a night on the piss or a boys weekend away in the bush was no trouble and was organised faster than he could whip his own cock out for a wank.
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RHP User
16 years ago
go out with (let alone marry :s) a girl who didnt have a naughty side- how boring. however my friend is really not interested in that, he is really into those vanilla girls. i think that he just has a very idealized dream of what sort of relationship this will result in. he is quite a vanilla boy actually... so maybe it will be perfect! :p
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RHP User
16 years ago
theres song lyrics im sure we all know... "lady in the street but a freak in the bed" That kinda sums it up for me. My ideal girl doesnt appear to be outwardly kinky, until the time is appropriate... im not so much attracted to the goodie goodie type either , so to speak, i like a girl with attitude... but also with enough intelligence to know when that attitude needs to be contained. and when it comes to cooking and cleaning... no, id prefer to do that for myself. though the odd home cooked dinner doesn't go unappreciated! lol
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RHP User
16 years ago
Lady in the street, whore in the bedroom. It is possible to be naughty and nice. xx Sal
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'Fiery_AdventuAs for the "housewife" idea I think it is overrated... You want someone that will great you at the front door naked not with a hot meal. Life should be lived not spent bickering over who should be doing what. couldn't they do both at the same time e.g. steak and bj day ?What SalAndy said - case closed :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
ha ha ha about the cooking side we dont cook alot coz we r gym junkies who like to eat wholesome raw food that is best for out training programes ;pbut yeh I hate seeing guys that create this "perfect dream girl" in ther head and it is far from the reality of todays girls I personally wud not like a boring nice guy ...!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
it works both ways don't it
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RHP User
16 years ago
Kilee is both Naughty and Nice...wocca wocca Trev
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RHP User
16 years ago
But a lot of guys have a problem if the girl has been around the block too many times. Nobody wants to dedicate their lives to a woman who spent years fucking around.
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RHP User
16 years ago
define years of fucking around...ther r many reasons why ppl "fuk around" being single is one of them, not finding the right guy/girl...if u naturally hav a high sex drive which i very much do...I dont think I cud go without "fuking around" in the time that I dont hav a bf coz i enjoy sex to much ;p but thats not to say that if I find someone I truli like that I wont be head over heels for that 1 person
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RHP User
16 years ago
There are consequences to every action. If you feel that you can't live without sex for very long then just do what makes you happy. You have every right to live life the way you want just as every guy has the right to decide who he wants to marry/ take home to mum or whatever.
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RHP User
16 years ago
having a girl that is both "marriage material" and a sex craving maniac behind closed doors is like the perfect girl!who wouldnt want that?
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RHP User
16 years ago
I have to agree with Priencevaliant most guys would not date a girl with a massive sexual history, and you are prob best to smile sweetly and not kiss and tell. The problem with having a massive sexual history from being single or otherwise is that most guys assume you are an easy lay when you get horny and therefore are untrustworthy, they will dump you before you cheat on them is the mentality. Other then that some guys are intimidated by a girl with alot of experience due to their own lack of experience. With regard to meeting parents I personally think it has more to do with your relationship with your parents. If you don't give a stuff about what they think you could take home anyone to meet them. On the flip side if you give a damn you won't just take home anyone. You would only take home people you thought would fit the mold of who your parents assume you would be with (I'm talking about similar family values, religous belief, style, etc ), your parents would be impressed by (I'm not talking about dad going good job son she's a hottie but has a decent job, normal family themselves, etc) or who you were in a serious long term relationship with. Also you have to think of the other person and how they would react to actually meeting your parents and would it be awkward and not fun for them (most likely yes to some extent) but that movie meet the parents springs to mind for a reason as it could be a total disaster waiting to happen and your avoiding the disaster. The 'lady in the street but freak in the bedroom' girl doesn't get an invite to meet the parents normally due to a fear from the male that she will let slip that she is a freak and then the parental unit will have to have words to him about the sort of company he keeps and how 'that girl' is not going to become part of our nice family. Its not like girls invite the 'bad boy' types home to meet their parents either, heck some girls don't even want their friends to know what they are up to lest they get labled as sluts by them.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I do totally agree with u there...but I hate how some guys hav this stereotypical image in the heads of wat "nice girl" shud be like...especially wen they themselves r the biggest man whores going! and lets be honest no one is going to kiss and tell ther sexual history to everyone they meet u hav to hav that connection or confidence in the person u tell ...ha u must be thinking mine is rlly bad or sumthing but its actualli not so bad I went thru a swinging phase wen i was like 19 but I did get over it I much prefer 1 on 1 hot passionate sex with someone u connect with its so much better well thats my opinion anywayz...
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RHP User
16 years ago
A nice person cares about people and their feelings and genuinely wants to help make the world a better place. A bitch (or bastard) is someone that doesn't care about anyone but themselves and only wants to make their life better. Sexual appetite or attractiveness has nothing to do with either of those. I've met some very sexy, highly sexually active, nice girls. I've met some very sexy, highly sexually active bitches. If I'm taking someone to meet my parents then it's going to be a nice girl. That's because I don't hang around bitches! So I'm far more likely to have sex with a nice 'boring' girl than a sexy bitch. Marriage - the nice girl is going to win hands down.. duh! Why would you want to be married to a bitch? Moral of the story - don't be a bitch! :)
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RHP User
16 years ago
hahaha I like ur little comments there :-)...thats how all guys shud think!! I agree it comes down to the person themselves not how deviant they r in the bedroom! but most guys judge that its annoying
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RHP User
16 years ago
"A nice person cares about people and their feelings and genuinely wants to help make the world a better place. A bitch (or bastard) is someone that doesn't care about anyone but themselves and only wants to make their life better."You hit the nail on the head there, People either care or they don't!, If they care more for themselves, over everyone else then they really are a Bitch/Bastard!and If you met someone you really like then, when it comes down to it, it shouldn't really matter what sexual history you have!
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RHP User
16 years ago
What you've done in the past shouldn't matter however a lot of people (both guys and girls) tend to hold onto that as a matter of high importance. I personally don't care what a partner has or hasn't done in the past, I take each person as they come and by their actions around me. Granted I would prefer a girl who has a nice mixture of both - It can be embarrassing when you go to a business dinner and your date gets smashed and starts dancing on the table! But that behaviour is perfectly acceptable in my books when you're at a party with friends. :) As for marriage material or meet the parents - I have shocked the hell out of my mother so frequently she doesn't even raise an eyebrow anymore - Unless the girl is a nice sweet person - Then she tells me I'm gonna get bored. Each to their own I guess.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Quoting 'DJ321' "A nice person cares about people and their feelings and genuinely wants to help make the world a better place. A bitch (or bastard) is someone that doesn't care about anyone but themselves and only wants to make their life better."You hit the nail on the head there, People either care or they don't!, If they care more for themselves, over everyone else then they really are a Bitch/Bastard!and If you met someone you really like then, when it comes down to it, it shouldn't really matter what sexual history you have! It's great to read there are enlightened individuals out there not mired in the puritanical double standard attitudes of yesteryear. A person should take it it as a huge compliment that out of all the people their loved one could have chosen to be with, he/she choses to be with you forever. Think of it as an informed decision as opposed to relying on fairy tales where the maiden marries the first prince that comes along. Unbeknownst to the maiden, the princes turns out to be a frog after dark, but what does she know, she doesn't have any experience to know any better. I guess that's why maidens are so popular. What difference does it make really, when the relationship goes through the stale and stagnant phases, and you're left wondering what would it have been like to have experienced more people intimately, and not just in a sexual sense. You either ignore the curiousity and soldier on, end the relationship and/or cheat, or take up the swinging lifestyle in some cases . In the last two cases, they're still clocking up the sexual partner numbers.
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RHP User
16 years ago
the Prince hit the nail on the head.... id buy a used car sure but not a beaten up bomb that needs reboaring.
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RHP User
16 years ago
Blasphemer has it, the "nice girl" thing can mean different things but is not really exclusive of being naughty - it's usually naughty & nice not naughty OR nice!!!!But yes I've known many a guy who slept around with every "loose" woman at uni without thinking they were "loose" themselves then when it came to getting married wanted as near to a virgin as they could find! Gee if their little Audrey Hepburn wives new what they had been up to and will these guys be able to resist their secretary after 10 years of marriage.For the record, I married the nicest girl in the world!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Aren't we lucky that women are not cars then .. although change the engine, suspension and give a good paint job and I bet glassonion will be lining up to get a ride in the "classic" . Anyone can "let themselves go" - there are twenty year olds that are less attractive to me than fifty year olds. Anyone can be in great shape, have a fantastic attitude and live life with passion and grace - fortunately most of us get to make those decisions ourselves. An athletic girl next door that is a non smoker, wears minimal makeup, is prepared to get dirty in more ways than one, can express her desires, prepared to indulge in a fantasy or three, lives life and inspires others to live theirs - has more dimensions than the bad girl, the it girl, the princess and the cheerleader combined. (athough there are at least a couple of fantasies in there)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Yeah, Blasphemer76 has said it all with simple clarity and that's because he's making sense. How much sex is involved is none of my mum's business. Warm hugs GAzza
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RHP User
16 years ago
It's great to have everyone saying how wise and wonderful I am, but being the nice enlightened guy sure isn't getting me any sex! LOL! So apparently guys want 'nice girls' for marriage, but girls don't want 'nice guys' for sex. LOL! Yeah, just thought I'd flip this around. Have fun!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Someone at the very beginning of this forum quoted his dad's advice about the quiet girls being the ones to watch out for well my dad's advice, which I think was excellent is that i should find a girl who is a lady in public and a whore in the bedroom! to me that is a nice girl! This approach has worked for me thus far!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Good topic... Guys pass me off as being the cute innocent type all the time... My dreams consist of getting married and having kids and having a relationship where you are monogamous... (disclaimer to this statement: I do not have any problem with what people on this site chose to do.. It is just my personal view)... I want to have a nice house (white picket fence included).... I wear whatever the latest fashion is and spend my spare time prying though fashion mags and im guilty of spending $350 on a maxi dress for summer (down to my ankels)... you would think due to my appearance that I am VERY innocent and cutsie... However get me naked and it is a whole other story..... As the saying goes.. "A lady on the street but a freak in the bed".... I recently postd something ot my facebook account from you tube and my friends were shocked and said wow that is rude for you..... If only they knew what happens in my bed... Men should learn that usually when girls put it all out there for you to see... Chances are.... They suck and are desperate...... Thats just my opinion... Dressing in clothes that make you look like a skank and parading yourself around and talking dirty to every secound guy you see in public i only going to get you labeled a slut... Guys... Class and style doesn't mean boring ;-)
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RHP User
16 years ago
just wanted to say I totally agree with the whole dream thing:-)
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RHP User
16 years ago
I cudnt agree less!! ur dad must be wise ;p hahaha
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RHP User
16 years ago
a Lady outside the bedroom & a dirty girl inside is the way to go!!after all ya gotta hav fun & keep things interesting
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RHP User
16 years ago
Only a small section of the community think like this. Nice girls. Marriage material. Marriage will that aint no sacred ceremony any more. We are in the year 2010
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RHP User
16 years ago
blue movies... its only nothing if it means nothing to you love. if you with to think like that thats your choice. im certainly never going to be so negative!!
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RHP User
16 years ago
Its a fact sweet pie
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RHP User
16 years ago
The disney princess fantasy is alive and well and making billions. The wedding institution with the special day - princess dress - ball event with starring princess role - adoring fans and new wedding priced mortgage - helps for the special man or mummy and daddy to have nice deep pockets. It's not negative to be jaded and cynical about the event management as it is a total crock. Especially when it is done for the second, third or fourth time. However, can two people want to spend their lives together? - of course. But do it for the right reasons, have the honesty to communicate, accept that people change over time, give and receive with grace. Back on topic - it even helps if people getting married are fussy about the sexual history of the other party. The less knowledge a couple have of other people the more likely they are to stay together. Too much perspective on how good the first few years of a relationship are in comparison to the rest of it can damage the willingness to stick it out. If the only sex you know it the one that has withered on the vine then accepting your fate can be a combination of the "nobody else would want me" stick and the "It could be worse" carrot Back off topic - I have no doubt a survey of those who believe they have "found" their soulmate would have a majority of people who have serious relationships with less than 10 people and are in the first three years of the "soulmate" relationship.
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RHP User
16 years ago
I wonder how many guys are prisoners to their mother's image. It's a big factor since birth and the first breast a chap hangs off. Then there's the mother in law issues where the girl never is good enough for her boy. As much as hot sex is a splendid thing... a guy often needs a degree of latitude. Time in the shed with his guy toys and under the car or on his bike. Occasional solitude with out being nagged, is a necessary refuge from a long hard working week. So a girl that nicely fits all these criteria can be a big factor and an incredible find... if they plan a long life together. Low maintenance women are often a blessing, as the flirty, stunning looking skirt, may generate envy with the other guys, but may not result in peace of mind with thoughts that every bloke lusts for a piece of her. The ideal woman marrying the ideal man must be a rarity when one considers the divorce statistics.
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RHP User
16 years ago
You have summed it up perfectly and with humour. Specially the soul mate clause. Hysterical. Love it.
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RHP User
16 years ago
ah Mrs Puppy looked all the perfect princess in her lovely white wedding dress, such the sweet, demure, pretty little thing walking down the isle....if only our guests knew what went on while they were waiting for us at the reception...best part of the big, flouncy wedding dress is the fun navigating the way through it for a quickie (or two). I think we all should be a little of the Prince Charming and the Princess but that shouldn't stop us from starring in our own little pornos from time to time! Eunuch I must be a lucky fella, I found a laid back, low maintenance girl who my mum loves and looks mighty fine in a flirty skirt (lucky I enjoy seeing men lust over her)...life can never be completely perfect....hence the mother in law haha!!! Even though I consider her as close to the ideal woman as there is, a life long commitment takes a lot of effort, even more as I'm far from the perfect man i guess! Whether it's love or any other pursuit the level of satisfaction is absolutely proportional to the amount of effort you put into it. There's no if's and buts about it!
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RHP User
16 years ago
I'm down to earth, nice and genuine. The type who is extremely kind to parents and gets along with them etc. BUT what no one ever expect of me is that I have the kinkiest, dirtiest mind, and am also an extremely horny person haha but Im also finding that problem, if you meet them in the way of playing together, they dont take you serious and think your just some dirty girl who they cant take home to mummy - BUT their loss ;) just gives you more time to find something better xx
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RHP User
16 years ago
In short most of the women I meet are far from "meet the parents - marriage material girls". I've found most want nothing to do with your family unless you're in it for the long term kind of thing. I've found some real gems in that category though - total off the hook freaks who've done some seriously nasty stuff, but bake cookies in the apron like in all the 50's catalogues for a stove.That being said, I totally agree with the comment above: working both ways. Heard so many times "I want a nice guy, who's a good family man", yet these same women are attracted to total douchebags - overlooking 70% of their male friends/acquaintences who'd be good for them.Ya can't win..
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RHP User
16 years ago
Yeah I noticed we didn't have any women explaining the whole problem of women not wanting 'nice guys' for sex. ;)
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RHP User
16 years ago
you got it bang-on HotazIce, someone you has found a true sense of self and then embraces it with no self censorship is key. being able to let all sides of ones lust love and life out is the best we could ask for. it is ashame though most men want princess Di to raise the kids and meet mum...but then want a pornstar lover, but not too confident, it messes with the fragile ego
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RHP User
16 years ago
Naughty girls Rock From my limited experience... girls always under estimate how many guys they have screwed and guys always over estimate the number of girls they have slepted with. A woman who knows where her clit is my choice. a guy should share the domestic chores 50/50 after all the relationship is supposed to be a joint venture between the two of you
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RHP User
16 years ago
to be honest i'd love to have a girl who is both :) meet her parents nice couplely stuff then a yea demon in the sack ...... quote a usher song lol ... i want a lady on the street but a freak in the bed......... i dont know why people worry so much if u like the girl stick with it jezz ....... the modern world is fucked up
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RHP User
16 years ago
Got to have both! Any guy who doesn't want other men to desire the gal he adores.. Well.. what an insecure poor lost soul. Nothing more lovely than a woman who is respectful to all and has a sense of sexy flare in the clothes she wears.And she rocks your world in the bedroom.......GOT TO HAVE BOTH! mmmmm.I love my pretty dresses with no panties on .LOL. sweetpetite41 xxxxxx
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RHP User
16 years ago
Ah sweetpetite41 you just described my wife to a T Wanna come feel her curves? ;)
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RHP User
16 years ago
I'm the girl who spends the morning baking apple pie to take to your mum's for lunch...but don't forget to save a piece...and I'll let you eat it off me later ;-)
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RHP User
16 years ago
Sophie you would make masterchef that much more interesting ...
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RHP User
16 years ago
It seems most of us suffer stereotyping in one form or another.... that's why I joined RHP.... It gives people a better idea of what a person likes on a more intimate level which I think is important cos when people first get to know me they say I come across reserved, shy sometimes a little snobby.... I don't mean to but by the same token I'm not going to jump on the cafe table we meet at and start pole dancing the umbrella am I? I would love to be in a committed relationship where I get to be a lady in public and a naughty little thing behind closed doors for my special someone!!! Good luck to all xx
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RHP User
16 years ago
Isnt this what girls do to guys as well???? nice guys = boring ????? :) I've seen lots of guys posts with this claim on in the forums . 2b :)
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Mr_Invisible
16 years ago
I think in all honestyGive the choiceI would like a nice girl... who's dirty when the doors close... lolRespect the woman, desire the slut and cherish the little girl. Then You have the mind, the body and the soul
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